What’s John Mayer saying about Taylor Swift now?

Corrections & clarifications: An earlier version of this post attributed the Mayer interview to Billboard. The singer was interviewed by MSNBC’s Ronan Farrow.

Taylor Swift has a thing for singing about the people she may or may not have dated in the past. It’s her whole schtick.

One of those people is John Mayer, who’s been vocal about his displeasure with her creative crutch. And, of course, we know his on-off girlfriend Katy Perry is not a Tay-Tay fan.

But, now, Mayer is actually saying something nice about Swift. He tells MSNBC he’s not shy about invoking her name — she’s not Voldemort, guys — because of her stance against Spotify.

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